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    Well, I have been fucked over by the disability insurance company that my employer and I paid a shitload of money to over the last ten years, and to keep this from happening to you, I suggest this...

    If you ever have to go on short-term disability for an injury, especially a spinal one, don't go back to work! Just tell the doctor that you still hurt, go do whatever he tells you to, and keep saying that you hurt, whether you do or not. Eventually you roll into long-term disability and they can't fuck you. I made a mistake when I went on short-term a few times and then went back to work. I thought it was the right thing to do, work when you feel well enough, even if you have some pain. WRONG! Since I went back to work, then found out that I couldn't even operate the fucking computer working half-time, as far as anyone involved is concerned, my disability started in June of this year and I've received no treatment whatsoever for it. Because I went back to work, this is now a new injury.

    Think that's bad enough? They will sit on your application, tell you that it's OK, they have 45 days to process it, and on day 45, you get a letter telling you that they're missing some documents. Always send the shit certified mail, maybe even have the postal clerk initial a copy of every page. Otherwise, they get another 45 days every time they pull this. Then they can delay by appealing to the government for another 30 days, and another.

    Think that's bad enough? My employer told the disability insurance company that I will be getting unemployment, and so I have to pay that back to them. So, I spent hours and hours filling out unemployment forms, having my doctor do his part of it, had to go through the hell of making their system work, and then they tell me that I'm not eligible for unemployment because I can't work.

    Social security? I just started with the lawyer this time. He said to apply in four months, because you have to be disabled for a year, and then WHEN (not if) they refuse it, to give him a call.

    And for you "get out and work, ya welfare trash" types, OK. I'll have someone hit you over the head with a baseball bat, and you type me a response while your head is still spinning. Then you'll know what it's like for me to try to work. I've been working 30 years non-stop, starting by throwing two paper routes at a time, and my employers and I have paid umpteen thousands of dollars that was supposed to come back to me if I became injured...millions of dollars if you count interest. I can't even get my student loans dismissed, even though they tack on thousands of dollars to pay for the fuckers who didn't pay theirs because they didn't feel like it.

    Great having health insurance now, though...a doctor appointment paying cash was $25. With insurance, it's $85 copay. What's wrong with this picture?

    OK, another stupid Denise vent, but you read the fucking thing, and that's your fault, not mine.

  • #2
    Morella, I totally hear you and feel for you. I have been down this road and I wish you luck.

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    • #3
      Thanks. I don't know what I would do without Tony. I wish he could be here all the time, but I can call him up and bitch, and at least he has insurance and income. Otherwise, after the money from selling everything was gone, life could get really shitty.

      -denise

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      • #4
        That's the difference between working WITH the system and working THE system. Try to do what you feel is right (or at least makes sence) and you get screwed.
        I know a guy (SOB) that told them " I can't do anything, I'm depressed" - Yep, he got full disability, medicare, SSI, ... you name it - sits around all day sucking beer & watching TV while us people in REAL pain work 24-7 to pay for it.

        Disclaimer: I know there are people with actual depression problems and cannot function - But I know this guy fairly well (jerk use to date a family member) - he's a REAL deadbeat.

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        • #5
          There was a documentary about people who went around to heroin addicts and told them that they were eligible for disability, and they were. They would get their government check and take it straight to the dealer.

          I could probably claim depression. You guys have seen my tone sometimes, and I've come as close to suicide as stacking up pillows to soak up the mess underneath me, and playing russian roulette with a bullet in the cylinder, and taking too many drugs. I've also been diagnosed as bipolar, rapid switching, and often spend two days not getting out of bed. This is all situational because of my injury, though, in my opinion, and not a standalone condition.

          I could claim it because of vertigo as well. If I had even one drink and got pulled over, I would go to jail as soon as I got out of the car (I don't drink at all, and don't drive after taking my medicine). I fell this morning, hard, on my hip, and I'll tell you something. As you get older and your spine wears out, or is damaged like mine, the pain goes all through your back and into your head. I sat there in a daze for two minutes before I pulled myself up. I can see why elderly people get those lifealert boxes.

          Some of this is my fault, soap box racing, marrying a man, however sweet he is, when I prefer a close female friend...things like that. If I could get out of pain, though, I would ramp down off of the drugs and go back to work. I've done it before, until I had the auto accident, then I had to go back on them, I still went back to work, but it's worse this time.

          The fact that heroin addicts and bullshitters get money does make me mad, but it would be less so if people who paid into the system and actually got injured could get their money back, instead of being forced to give it to people who don't deserve it.

          I'd like to drive with Tony and double our salary when Jenny gets old enough, but I can't because of the pain drugs. I actually agree with this policy...it would be like driving after three days with no sleep.

          Oh fuck I'm going to hurt tomorrow. I think I'll check for important email and rest for a while. It's nice to have some friends to talk to here. I don't know too many people in Tucson.

          -denise

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