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    I went to CCW class yesterday, and now I have to wonder why they even bother to have the class. I think that Arizona is a "shall issue" state...they have to give you the permit if you ask for it.

    The instructor even said that out of 23, there were 7 people that he should fail. One was the daughter of a friend of the instructor, had never fired a gun in her life, and her father told her to buy a Glock, instead of a nice, simple wheelgun. She didn't know how to load it, or even which end to point at the target. A few others didn't know how to shoot at all, and one kid brought a gun that first he said he bought from his father, then his cousin, and it had no firing pin in it.

    All we had to do was put 7 out of 10 into a 1' square at 21 feet. People who missed got to try it again. 96,000 people are legally carrying guns, and gawd knows how many illegally. I hope I'm nowhere around if their guns go off.

    The only thing that I got out of the class is that if you shoot anybody, for just about any reason, you're probably going to prison. I also learned that a bowling team is a gang...any time four or more people dress the same in AZ, they are legally a gang. Also, if anyone is close enough to me to grab my gun, like in a car, even if it's in my left pocket, that person can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon. These are games that prosecutors play, because their job is to put people in prison whether they have done anything wrong or not.

    At least we don't live in Massachusets, though. There was a woman there whose ex-husband called her up and said that he was coming over to kill her. She called 911, and they told her to call back when he got there. She made the call as he was breaking into the house, he chased her all around and into the basement in a corner, and she shot him. She is currently on death row, because there was a window up over her head that the prosecutor said that she could have climbed out of. Did we need one more reason not to live in Massachusets?

    Sheesh.

    -denise

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    We dont have that problem in ga anymore. Last year we inacted the "stand your ground law", and trust me, i have been following this very closely. I even asked a couple of officers and state troopers about it just to make sure i got my facts straight. Basically, now if somebody tries to break into your car while you are in it, tries to grab you against your will, or comes at you in a threatening manner, you have the legal right to use deadly force, wether the perp has a weapon or not. And not only that, the law also protects you from incarceration by the authorities, AND protects you from being sued by the perps family. The law states word for word," and shall be protected from ANY and ALL civil actions". unfortunately, there are only 4 states that have this law. georgia and florida being 2 of them.

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    • #3
      I asked Tony if he were interested in moving to Atlanta, because we are getting out of this dried-up shithole, and he said no. I don't think that he has ever lived in a place where there are so many Black people. The only place he has seen them is on COPS, and he doesn't realize that most of them are nice people. Lower-class people in bad neighborhoods who don't know how to behave themselves are a pain in the ass no matter what color they are, and we're buying land and having no neighbors. Here, we can get sued and lose our land for trying to detain smugglers and illegals from crossing our land, and go to jail for defending ourselves against a gang, surrounding us and 2" away.

      -denise

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      • #4
        Thats why we live in the semi country,lol....where we are NOT the ethnic minority.

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        • #5
          This is why I drive a hearse, I shoot them, load them up, take them out to the desert, dig a hole, add some lye and end of person.
          The laws here do suck for shooting some one, if you unload your gun into them you are less likely to be arrested, but if you use one shot, one kill, then you get arrested for premeditated murder.
          I deal with the same issues with my CCW, but I rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

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          • #6
            [QUOTE=Morella; Also, if anyone is close enough to me to grab my gun, like in a car, even if it's in my left pocket, that person can be arrested for carrying a concealed weapon.

            now that is fucked up. i like the new georgia law that will let ya carry in state parks numerous other places. i hope it passes.

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            • #7
              A forum community dedicated to Georgia firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more!



              we are working very hard to get HB89 passed and
              HB915
              go to either website to find out more info on how YOU can
              help get rid of our stupid "public gathering" laws.
              or PM me and i can explain more about it.

              edit: georgiapacking.com will be offline this weekend
              for server transfer check back mon. 2-18-08.
              it will be up until sat. night around 10:00 pm.

              thanks for checking us out.
              Last edited by tony218; 02-12-2008, 11:41 AM.

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              • #8
                Tony, long time no see Brother. Were you at the World of Wheels last month? I thought I saw you across the street as we were coming in, but wasn't sure. Holler at me sometime.

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                • #9
                  This is why I drive a hearse, I shoot them, load them up, take them out to the desert, dig a hole, add some lye and end of person.
                  This is funny.

                  There was a murderer who buried a body and added LIME to speed up the decomposition. Time to clean the wax out of the ears...lime is a preservative! They found the body totally intact.

                  -denise

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                  • #10
                    Dumbass - Maybe he was making a corpse-arita!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HearseHaunter View Post
                      Tony, long time no see Brother. Were you at the World of Wheels last month? I thought I saw you across the street as we were coming in, but wasn't sure. Holler at me sometime.
                      if it was sunday it was me, i was let down by the world of wheels
                      too much tuner shit and not enough real cars.
                      but,yea i'll give you a holla' and we can hang out. been busy with
                      politics tryn' to get these bills passed. check out HB89 and HB915
                      contact your reps. and tell them you would like for them to support
                      these bills. i'll try to find the link to HB915 it's the more important one.
                      here's the bill:http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2.../sum/hb915.htm

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                      • #12
                        I'm taking my cc class next month. A security company does the State of Utah, because it has a reciprocity with VA.

                        I shoot at the NRA building in Fairfax, have been shooting for a long time. But don't have the $$ to thow at my own heater. Also a buddy from back home way back when is also an ATF agent.

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                        • #13
                          I shoot at the NRA building in Fairfax
                          Just don't shoot at the CIA building. They might shoot back.

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