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[SmoothNlow]

...also a real hearse and have money left over. putting a casket on a trailer behind a pt with pepboys stuff will not even get it close to a coach. so you cant really say u have a hearse, more like "hearse" so i dont agree with your signature....

but id just say instead of waisting money on something that its not go buy a real cheap one and slowly fix it up....that way youd still have your dailey driver! and a real coach!

Oh and one more time...

And for the record, its wasting money. Not waisting. That's where your pants sit, your waist.

[SmoothNlow]

dont get me wrong your ambition is key but instead of wasting money on the pt id just leave it as it is now and start saving for your coach....

its just my advise that you save for what you really want instead of wasting it on something that will never be...

No need to put words in your mouth. You said your self. And I never said that you said that it "sucked". I said id never tell a man he wasted his money (which is basically a slap in the face and sayin yea your shit sucks)
You wanna be the bigger man, next time if you ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing.

[Miller Meteor Man]

ok check it out, they said they couldnt get a real hearse i was saying the best solution to get one i said that its great a caris getting customized, i didnt sit here and said a car sucked so dont put words in my mouth. ill be the bigger man and leave it at that

[SmoothNlow]

Haha thank you CreepyPT. Mable was a wonderful project. NHAA member HotRodDwayne is now the proud owner of my beloved Mable. My 74 Ford Courier is the trouble maker. Full air ride and with a flick of my finger she lays flat on the frame. Been building it for a while. Mable was sold (among other reasons) to fund my mini truck. I catch a lot of grief for it, much like your PT.

I totally agree with you. I support and respect any one building any car. Not that I have to like.it. many things I don't. I don't care for imports. I don't care for Boyd style fiberglass rods. Nor lifted trucks. But I wouldntdare tell ANY fellow car enthusiast that he wasted his money on building his car, simply because its not my cup of tea. Just because you think one thing, does NOT make it the world standard. People like that ruin our hobby and make us look bad. Respect what your brothers are doingg, or like I said, find a different hobby. I am not fond of PTs, and I would drive yours in a heartbeat keep doing your thing. I get it all the time. I got a 1957 chevy 2 door 210 sedan with a 302 ford and a T-5 5 speed, and a mini truck layin frame. Trust me I get lots of hate. All I can say is F*#k the haters.

[creepypt]

Smooth, I always say I'll support anyones right to do what they want with their car. I still reserve the right to laugh at it, or not like it. As far as rice, well, there are better ways. An 80 hp Honda with a giant wing and a fart can...well, it CAN race, but then again, my "not" hearse pulling a trailer with a casket on it, and 4 passengers will leave that guy sitting there putting his hat back on backwards. (My car isn't a race car either.)
And Dickey, you reminded me to look online for a book I saw a while ago about funeral rituals and history. Might be interesting. Think about the fact that pharoahs were loaded on a barge and taken down the river to their place of burial. If I follow what you are saying, you might suggest that everyone drive their hearse into a river, and if it can sail to the nearest cemetary, it qualifies as a burial vehicle!
In any case, I'll say this about my own: I have no issues with people who don't like PT Cruisers, a lot don't. I'm not fond of Plymouth Reliants. As to my car being a hearse, I'm still tossing that around with myself. Hence the argument. I haven't yet been given a reason that disqualifies it, but nothing has for sure shown that it is. The best argument against it is still, "Hearses carry the dead." And other than a family pet (coincidentally), it hasn't. But then it goes back to intent vs. use? Is a bomb a bomb if it doesn't go boom?
(BTW Smooth, your Mable is a fantastic looking coach. Next time they give you hell about your suspension, throw em in the road and have Mable sit on them.)

[Dickey]

Seems to me that the first hearses were not built by coach manufacturers (100+ years ago). I'm not sold on a coach builder origin serving as an end all definition for a hearse.

[SmoothNlow]

CreepyPT is taking this really well. As a CAR enthusiast, not just a hearse enthusiast, I respect any and all things automotive. I respect and acknowlge the work, pride, blood and sweat it takes to build a car the way you want it. Ill park my bagged 74 courier or my 59 caddy next to a rice rocket with a 3 foot wing, or a cookie cutter fiber glass 32' at a show. And as a car enthusiast, id never have the balls to tell a man he "Wasted his money" on his project. Were someone tell me that, id stroke my beard before I decked you. Nothing in the world enfuriates me more then a car guy telling another car guy that his car sucks. It pisses me off so bad. Car people need to stick together. Shitting on another car guys car just tells me, hey, lets never be friends. If you wanna fight and argue with people, fight the people trying to stop us from customizing our cars. There's agencies that want to make us conform and not customize our cars. Making all of our cool mods illegal. I get pulled over daily for "altered adjustible suspension". You wanna shit on people, shit on them. Have respect for your brothers customizing their cars, or find a different hobby.

Cheers! And yes people need a civil uprising. This world is becoming a shit hole. It pains me that should I ever have kids, this is no place for them to live.

[creepypt]

True that, Scary Guy. Hard to miss a twenty foot long high top Cadillac, compared to my little black creeper. But the responses to mine tend to be just the same once someone deos notice it, and what it looks like. Either very positive, or very negative. Surprisingly, amongst other people who also have PT Cruisers, the responses seem to tend more towards the negative. Except on my cruiser forums. One guy who is a professional Santa, and has a cherry red convertible with airbrushed reindeer on the side of his "sleigh", just happens to really love my "slay". And even though I'm not fond of the verts, seeing photos of him as Santa in that thing looks fantastic!

[Miller Meteor Man]

ok...A REAL hearse is built by a coach works company..yes even if its not even carried a single body.. if its built by a coach works then its a hearse. dont get me wrong your ambition is key but instead of wasting money on the pt id just leave it as it is now and start saving for your coach....get some friends that work on cars and learn how to do things...i own a 73 miller a 64 caddy convertible a 61 fleetood caddy, a 53 pontiac a 2004 tundra and a little diahatsu i bought for 900 bucks to use for work (gets 40 MPG) ...i worked for these things and ive done well for only being 30. ive been working on cars since i was 14 or so and it takes time....i have a few friends that have put landau bar stickers and such on there daily drivers like hhrs and elements and such but they stopped there and put money into a coach. its just my advise that you save for what you really want instead of wasting it on something that will never be...just some advice from a fellow coach enthusiast . i hope you understand what i am trying to say...take care of yourself!

[Scary Guy]

I suppose the answer would be that "normal people don't know any better" for the ectos. However most people will recognize a hearse on sight compared to a PT

Also at least you didn't get an actual hearse and hack it up into an ecto, so I guess that's a good thing as well

[creepypt]

Sorry, looked like a decal to me, points for actually getting real bars too.

Glad you said something about that. The pictures were of the decals I started with. Going back and looking at the ride page, looks like Cardomain barfed again recently. Bunch of pics missing, pics back that were deleted, and pages out of order. Recent pics are back up, some updated info and such.

I do regret not getting a "purpose built" coach when I needed a new car. 60's and 70's cars have a level of cool you can't get on anything new. And take a fantastic 60's or 70s Cadillac, big lights, big grilles, fins, miles of body work, and make it a funeral car. Now you've got cool, creepy, DIFFERENT, maybe a little goth, or emo (around here we call the emo kids baby bats) At that time though, my existing ride was on a bad spiral decline, and I had to put some reality above my wants. A newer hearse cost too much, and wasn't the look I wanted, I prefer classic cars. I was looking for a '75 Caddy, so I could have a last ride as old as I am, or a 69 Pontiac (see my post about the catalina/GTO hearse). Older cars require a level of care, and usually a level or repair that I didn't have time or money for. Search for posts about broken windshields on here...I just replaced a broken windshield for $137 a few weeks ago, and they came out and installed it in the drive. Parts, aside from interior trim, are pretty consistant across about twelve years (seven years then), and readily available from the dealer, the parts stores, and even the junk yards.

I still want a coach, and will eventually get one. This year I had some extra money for projects, and I opted to keep working on the vision I had for this car. It doesn’t help that my woman has a car, too, and our roommate has 3, and we are out of space for more vehicles. Since the rally car is in the garage, I’m mostly working on projects I can kick, drag, or squeeze somewhere inside the house where there is heat.

As far as a real hearse Miller, here’s a nice discussion: what determines real? Intent or action? If a “real” hearse is used to carry corpses to burial, and a hearse that hasn’t, or “only carries pets” isn’t, then is a bomb a “real” bomb? Or is it just a wannabe until it’s dropped on something and blows up? As an example to what has been mentioned so far, if I go to the coach works over in Kansas, and buy a brand new coach, then it’s not a real coach. It hasn’t carried the dead, and it’s been converted from a new Cadillac or Lincoln or whatever.

So, back to my little car. No rollers: I have requests in to several forums looking for rollers to put on the table I’m building. Don’t want to spend a fortune to buy them new, and may skip them anyway, since I’ll probably fix the casket down to the trailer anyway, so someone doesn’t steal it when I’m traveling.
Curtains: I have those. Made em myself. Does that count? Probably not, since they didn’t come from a coachworks.
Landau bars: Got those too. But they are off of a 65 Pontiac. And only about 18” long, compared to a real hearse’s 30”+. Size matters.
Urn: Yup. Kinda. It’s resin, not stone or steel. And it wasn’t sold as an urn. So maybe not.
Flowers: Nope, they are plastic.
Can it carry a body or casket? Yup. Small or folded up. Actually I can get up to about 6’ in the back, if remove the back seats (purpose built that way), and don’t want leg room in front. Again, only good for a small casket.

I’d thought about getting a child’s casket (about 4’) for the back for shows and such. That’s a little farther into creepy than I care for. That’s why I’ve now got the trailer. That, and for vacations, and we like to go auctioning, and as roomy as the Cruiser is, some things just don’t fit.

So now I have a casket, and a way to carry it. IMO, that’s just as purpose built as any hearse I’ve seen.

Don’t misunderstand my argument as personal or anything. I know a lot of people who don’t like PTs, and run into people ALL the time who don’t like hearses. I digress at the part about having carried bodies. Except for a family pet (and that was coincidental) mine hasn’t carried any dead bodies. So I might be disqualified as having a hearse for that reason.
I wonder if those Ecto clones are real? How about the magnum Ectos? Since it was a movie car, can a clone of an Ecto be a real Ecto, since technically speaking the movie car was was a prop?

Anyway, back to the family. Happy holidays, and glad to help hijack a thread that served no purpose (again, in my opinion) to begin with!

[Miller Meteor Man]

well for 16 grand for a new pt plus tax you could have got a nice little compact car that was used with warrenty and also a real hearse and have money left over. putting a casket on a trailer behind a pt with pepboys stuff will not even get it close to a coach. so you cant really say u have a hearse, more like "hearse" so i dont agree with your signature. im not. bagging on ya at all, id say youve made a pt look a little better, but id just say instead of waisting money on something that its not go buy a real cheap one and slowly fix it up....that way youd still have your dailey driver! and a real coach!

[Scary Guy]

Sorry, looked like a decal to me, points for actually getting real bars too.

Still how is that casket going to fit in that tiny ass car?

I can drive my hearse in any weather also. If you can't handle the car though maybe you do need that PT.

Might as well re-purpose this thread for something better anyway :P

[creepypt]

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For the money, I got a car with a warranty and gas mileage decent enough to get me to work and back without killing my bank account. I have a car that I can drive in any weather. The landau bars are as real as any. There in the picture is the casket that's going behind it getting some work done. I'm fine with folks who don't like the PT Cruisers, its not unusual. And is it a real hearse? It hasn't carried hundred of dead bodies to the grave, but it can. And if being "converted" disqualifies it as a coach, there are going to be a lot of unhappy hearse owners, since they are all converted. If you want to discuss it though, a new thread might be a better idea.

[Miller Meteor Man]

but one thing i ment to add is i really cant stand pts lol no pun meant