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WHAT KIND OF HEARSE DO I HAVE?....HELP

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  • #16
    I think what you have is built by the Collins Coach co

    Collins got into the funeral car business in late 1982. Its first ads featured artwork of a short wheelbase Cadillac sedan conversion, and I've heard that it built one such car and showed it at a funeral directors' convention, where it didn't go over well. Not long after that, it introduced a pair of Cadillac hearses on extended chassis, with the stretch being done either at the B or C pillar, and the tail extended. The timing was right for those cars, because dealers who took on Collins as a secondary line were able to sell a lot of those cars in the next few years.

    The two legendary 1983-1984 Miller-Meteor three-door Eldorado hearses were the brainchild of Spencerville, Ohio's Jack Hardesty, the owner of a small funeral home supply company called the Barron Corp. Hardesty was also Lima, Ohio's first sports and imported car dealer and went on to found the Lima Coach Co, a hearse conversion company that specialized in Dodge Caravans.

    When Miller-Meteor went out of business in 1979, Barron Corp. purchased the trade name of the once-famous coachbuilder. He also owned the local Ziebart franchise, and most of the work on the second Eldorado was done in the large Ziebart shop. Bud Bayliff assisted Hardesty in building and engineering the first 1983 Eldorado prototype which was constructed at Bayliff's Lima, Ohio body shop.

    In late 1984 Hardesty sold the rights to the Miller-Meteor trade name along with the tooling for the Eldorado coaches - which also happened to fit Cadillac's new 1985 front-wheel-drive DeVilles - and the second 1984 Eldorado prototype to Collins Industries of Hutchinson, Kansas. Hardesty's front drive tooling was the basis for the 1985 Collins-built Miller-Meteor-Cadillac front drive coaches which were produced in Hutchinson through 1992.

    Like Eagle in Amelia, Collins kept working at it and developing, and eventually introduced an all new side servicing hearse in the late '80's. In 1992, it was purchased by the parent company of Eureka in Norwalk, Ohio, and production was moved to Norwalk. By that time, the hearse division had been spun off from the rest of Collins for some time.

    google collins hearse and look for pics i found a few that the rear looks about the same

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    • #17
      ......MYSTERY SOLVED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



      first i want to thank everyone for their hard work and input on helping me

      try and figure out what coach i have... But after alot of tracking down info,

      I found the original owner of the hearse and just got off the phone with him.
      The Coach Company is...........

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      Demers, out of Quebec Canada ... if you google "Demers Hearse" you will find pictures of Hearse's with the same

      landau bar and everything... Finally it has been figured out!!!!

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      • #18
        Good info and find!

        Man, I was way the hell off.

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        • #19
          Ain't never even heard of Demers! Well, I suppose I learned something new today!

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          • #20
            yeah you and me both!

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            • #21
              Wow! I hadn't heard of Demers either. I was actually thinking Collins too.

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              • #22
                Demers are known to have exceptionally low build quality. They were bottom of the barrel coaches, very cheaply made. I have two friends with Demers, one a Lincoln and the other an Olds. Yours does not have similar build characteristics.




                Regardless of what previous owner says, it looks more like a Collins.

                Breece only had top hinged rear loading doors, so that was never an option.


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                • #23
                  You're saying the red one is a Breece? Interesting that it has landau bars with those half circles.

                  What was the purpose/idea behind that strange incomplete rectangle on the side of that black car? I am also curious about those triangle shaped patches by the rear door.

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                  • #24
                    Yes Sarah, white over maroon coach is a Breece. More interesting perhaps is the lack of cohesive design. WTF was that designer thinking with that seemingly arbitrary non-flowing roof molding? Hideous.

                    Black coach is the Demers Lincoln. Everything about its construction is chintzy. Incomplete rectangle you mentioned was probably nothing more than needing a seem to join two smaller pieces of fabric that were on hand. That's how Demers did things. No rhyme nor reason, cheapest means possible.

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                    • #25
                      Those are some UGGGLy coaches. One thing that's bothered me alot about coaches since 1984, are they seem top heavy. But having what looks like a filled in window above the Landau bars on the Demers Lincoln, has got to be the ugliest feature I've seen on any coach. The only way to make that coach any uglier, would be to paint it white, put what appears to be a yard sale on the roof, and those "no ghosts" circles on the doors.

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