The 59 random stuff.

[Riff Raff]

Straight from the ID page I linked to eariler:

The De Ville Series was more upscale than the Series 62. It featured more luxurious interiors and had a couple of extra standard accessories. This is the 4 Window Sedan de Ville. Exterior identification of the DeVille Series is easily accomplished by noticing the rear fender scripts and the absense of the front fender crests found on the Series 62 Cadillacs.

I think the this link will answer most, if not all your questions.

http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/mycars/1959/info/59det.htm

[disPAIN'Sbac]

It's a 1959 Cadillac Series 62 4 door hardtop by the Cadillac book. Veranda or Flat-top by the general car guys.

So no "Sedan De Ville" is incorporated into the name.

Elvis needs to chime in from Graceland! How many Cadillacs did he own or buy and give away? He's gotta know.

[disPAIN'Sbac]

Here is apicture of my 59 so I can't say much

NOPE you sure can't the car says it all!!! Nice job!!!

[60Buick]

Originally Posted by Ambulanced
Sixty-Two Sedan (Four Window) This is how it is listed in the brochure.



uh oh.... school back in session.
But which brochure for which car?Did you pull the brochure for my car. There were several model Cadillac's in the year 59. Is this the brochure for "my" car.

Mr. Buick says
"(no such thing as a 4 window hardtop) flat top"



We know it is a 1959 Sedan Deville 4 door flat top. Interior by fleet wood. so far. Veranda still has not been mentioned

Cadillac may have given the base 4 door hardtop a 4 window designation. Buick did not.

The flat top was either a Lesabre 4 door Hardtop or an Invicta 4 door hardtop. No 4 window designation. The 6 window was an Electra 4 door 6 window hardtop or an Electra 225 6 window Riviera Sedan. I have never heard any one use a 4 window designation because a 2 door hardtop also has 4 windows. Cadillac may be different because they called there 2 doors coupes and had no sedan bodystyles in 59.

Veranda is a styling term in reference to the roofs rear overhang, same as a Veranda porch on your house.

The term sedan is another styling term refers to being supported by pillars. A sedan has 6 pillars 2 front 2 middle and 2 rear. A four door with a center post or 2 door with a center post has a "sedan" bodystyle. This is where it gets confusing, the term has been used by some car manufactuers such as Cadillac and Buick as a model designation "Sedan Deville" or "Riviera Sedan" to imply size and authority but the bodystyle is a 4 door hardtop. Hardtop sounds sleek and sporty thats not what most people buying a 6000 dollar 5000 pound luxury car want but they do like the open airy feel and cleaner lines.


Cadillac was broken down by trim level like Buick.

Buick had Lesabre, Invicta, Electra and Electra 225.

Cadillac used series 62, De Ville, Fleetwood and Eldorado.

Series 62 was the base model and offered all bodystyles same as Buick did. You could get the Convertible, 2 door hardtop, 4 door hardtop and 4 door 6 window hardtop in series 62 trim.

They broke the De Ville into two groups. Sedan de Ville and Coupe de Ville. The only difference was the Coupe de Ville was a coupe and the Sedan de Ville was a 4 door hardtop or 4 door 6 window hardtop. I know there was not a convertible offered with the De Ville trim in 59. That started being offered somewhere in the late 60's.

This was the Sedan de Ville parts car.


The Fleetwood was the most luxurious package and was only offered as a four door 6 window hard top. The factory limo was also a Fleetwood. My Fleetwood served as a limo even though it is a 6 window hardtop.

This was the Fleetwood 4 door 6 window hardtop.



The Eldorado was the top of the line and offered a convertible and a 2 door hardtop (coupe).

Interior by Fleetwood means nothing, same as Body by Fisher. They were companys bought up by GM years and years ago.

But to answer your question you have a series 62 four door hardtop. They only offered 2 so buy the brochure with the picture of the flat top on it. The Sedan de Ville has aditional trim that yours does not and yours has holes where some series 62 trim is missing that was not on the Sedan de Ville. Check the body tag to be certain.


Some trivia: If anyone ever ask you why the fins are so big on your Cadillac, say Buick did it. The 59 Buicks design was the first finished using GM's 59-60 greenhouse (the roof and windows). GM wanted to save money and insisted on interchangable parts so they gave Cadillac the door off a prototype 59 Buick and said design your car around it. The rear slope of the door dictated the rear slope of the body. Buick brought their fins out so Cadillac had no choice but to build them up.

[Bob Kinee]

Here is apicture of my 59 so I can't say much

That 59 would look AWESOME....in my driveway.

[disPAIN'Sbac]

Sixty-Two Sedan (Four Window) This is how it is listed in the brochure.

uh oh.... school back in session.
But which brochure for which car?Did you pull the brochure for my car. There were several model Cadillac's in the year 59. Is this the brochure for "my" car.

Mr. Buick says
"(no such thing as a 4 window hardtop) flat top"



We know it is a 1959 Sedan Deville 4 door flat top. Interior by fleet wood. so far. Veranda still has not been mentioned

[Phantom59]

Can't Say Much

Here is apicture of my 59 so I can't say much

[disPAIN'Sbac]

A big fucking Cadillac.

LMFAO

"And ma'm this is the new 1959 model"

"Oh dear how pretty what is this model called"

"Ma'am this here is this years top o the line BIG fuckin Cadillac.

[disPAIN'Sbac]

Nicely done Richard.

Agreed

[Ambulanced]

Sixty-Two Sedan (Four Window) This is how it is listed in the brochure.

[deadbride]

A big fucking Cadillac.

You took my words!!!!!

A CAR. It has 4 wheels and goes vrooom!

It's your car, do what you want to it. If people don't like it, tell them to get bent and mind their own business, it's your car!

[Riff Raff]

It's a 1959 Cadillac Series 62 4 door hardtop by the Cadillac book. Veranda or Flat-top by the general car guys.

[tonytheskin]

Now Before class ends Mr. Buick tell us what it is I drive,(full name and description as a dealer in 59 would tell a customer) window count and all.

A big fucking Cadillac.

[Psychoholic]

Nicely done Richard.

[disPAIN'Sbac]

Some flat top advice. Never park it under trees. The flat tops love rust and suck debris under that rear window trim and it rots the seam.
They also like to leak and the floors love rust to.

She stays covered and were not near trees, good there. Rocker panels are only rust I can find and even then it's not major, the carpet is out I can see no signs of rust in the floors. Actually I have crawled through the car and under it looking for future rust potential that I need to monitor and can't seem to find any so far. I think I'm good for years to come long as I keep an eye on her. The car being in a museum for many years helps that I guess. I do have a leak under rear visor, gotta fix that.

There favorite spot is between the front and rear side windows. Also they suck stuff into the doors. Keep the holes under the door clear. A lot of 59-60 Chevrolet parts will fit your car as well. keep that in mind as it is usually obtainable and cheaper since it does not have Cadillac written on the box but it is identicle.

Good to know.....

Air bag it

A must.......period.

and give it a good interior.

I SUCK at interior!!!!

My challenge is... not to have the "SA" look. But if I'm bagging it and shaving shit then that's un-avoidable I guess. "sa" to some "street" to others. Some dude yelled "cotchee" at me the other day (he was driving a Jeep Wrangler ) when I was driving by. And I thought the fun would end when I got rid of the hearse. Off white, med blue is going to be my color choices for the interior. I'm trimming the bottom of the doors and maybe other various areas in a multi colored blue vintage paisley pattern, yes paisley, raise your eyebrow now but when I turn the vision into reality you'll dig. I'm flushing out the huge inset instrument cluster with covered mdf where the big hole begins (achieving almost no inset) and adding all new "round" chrome ring old school gauges/separates, although I love the look of it now too much there is not working so I mid as well start from scratch instead of fish through all that. Found a guy that specializes in dash/gauges/electrical and modernizing old school cars gauges/dash cluster.

Shaving the trim would look real good. You don't have to worry about ruining the car or any of that crap. I own the 2 holy grails of 59 Cadillacs. I have a 59 Convertible, I am dropping a 72' Eldorado 500 in it and I also have the 59 Miller Meteor. Only 88 were built like it, I see a future Ecto 1. I don't care what other think about it either. If you don't ever want to sell that ends the argument, build it how you want it. If any one gives you crap about modifying the flat top tell them what I am doing and make them cry.

BIG EVIL SAID IT BEST and I quote.
"Bag it, slam it, shave it !

Because stock was someone else's idea of perfection."


Now Before class ends Mr. Buick tell us what it is I drive,(full name and description as a dealer in 59 would tell a customer) window count and all.